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  1. I've just booked a table in the FF area
  2. SueG

    new member... kind of

    Wow! That's quite a list of birds! Noticed you've picked four from your 'past' list to try again (bib, spice, green, gouldian) - and ones you didn't breed first time around?? If so, good on you for having another go and really hope you find your pairs.
  3. I booked a table on my own in the end - no. 757 (come and say 'Hi'!). I'll be taking a fair few birds off the "restricted" list and will send the notification form (such as it is...) back to the PS before the 28th September deadline. Will be interesting to see whether I get an inspector at my table... My guess is that these forms go the same way as all those paper sales forms we hand in at the end of show
  4. I'm one of those who doesn't usually have much to sell in March - my season doesn't start until April, and my spare stock mostly sells at the Autumn show. If there was the opportunity to sell a few birds on a society table, I'd be up for that and happy to chip in to table cost. It might also look good for FF to have more of a Society presence? Maybe focused on the forum as the place where most of us got the advice and support that helped us really get into the hobby? On that note, I'll be there but probably arriving on an 'ordinary' punter's day ticket. I've got a few birds I'm thinking of offering for sale but haven't made my mind up yet, and will probably aim to pre-buy pair of Zosterops.
  5. SueG


    Having been quite concerned about where the PS had put us, I actually liked the position on the balcony that we had. Good light, wide corridor, and a wall behind the birds so no chance of anyone knocking over (or running off with) a cage. Probably wouldn't work if there'd been more FF members but for me it was good position - and I'd sold up everything bar a few odd cock birds by 11am, so home to settle my new Bulbuls by 1pm (thanks Simon Mills for the birds and Colin, as always, for the advice). I agree about the lack of waxbills tho' - might explain why the few I'd brought went so quickly, even the unsexed youngsters! I think the new rules would put people off, I'd been worried about bringing song sparrows but all of mine were pre-sold so didn't have any on the stand. Not that I noticed any "inspectors"... I did think that the show wasn't far off needing to take on bouncers tho' - there seemed to be even more trouble than previous years with theft and just general hassling of stall holders from dodgy types. One reason I now leave at lunchtime, is because I can't stand all those afternoon chancers that turn up trying to barter and hassle you. Other than that, a good day for me but then I wasn't looking to buy birds other than the one pair. Will be interesting to see how the Spring show goes.
  6. Agree with most of the comments. This feels like a box being ticked rather than a serious attempt to monitor bird traffic. Signing the form (printing it out and signing it???) seems about as effective as those daft 'birds sold' sheets we hand in. My understanding is that DEFRA and other inspectors patrol the shows in order to check that birds look healthy and are tabled correctly, I don't see how they would be able to check the origin of most of the birds sold beyond trusting what the table holder tells them.
  7. Is it just me, but I can't find any information about what time entry is for breeders tables? The website is just showing the 9.30am public opening time. Anyone know?
  8. Blimey - as a site member I didn't know about any of that. And it makes me sad that you felt so let down, Jan. Having been involved in other committees, much of what you say is inevitable - individuals run out of steam and time and the best way to get past that (if there are no new committee members coming forward) is to reduce what needs to be done, rather than taking on more. In that spirit, my suggestions would be: 1. Make it easy for members to voluntarily contribute to FF site costs. Either post the bank account details up here so we can pay direct, or offer an email link for us to request the details. I'd happily give you money rather than birds for auction - less hassle for me in sorting and transporting. 2. If the Spring Show is the main FF one, we should focus on getting that right next year and say that we won't have an FF area at the October show. 3. However, if there's money and people available we could have an FF stand as a recruitment and meeting area but not a selling area, at one or two other shows? The big draw for me when I joined FF was getting advice from experienced bird keepers, so maybe having a stand at the 'Help Bird Keepers' show would be worthwhile? I've no idea what that show's like, but personally I live near enough to come and help out if we were running an advice stand for new bird keepers. 4. Please, please can we look at other areas of the hall for the FF section at Stafford Spring?? I started booking tables direct because I stopped enjoying being in the FF area. I enjoyed being there once - possibly the time March before last - but the other two times I found it too dark, too cramped and difficult in terms of punter 'flow'. My personal preference would be for that section set off the balcony, just down from the bar, that has lots of natural light The table layout there tends to be rubbish but if we have a large area we could (hopefully?) set up the tables the way we want them and have our own catching cage there too? 5. Again, focusing on FF as a place for encouraging new birdkeepers, how about a 'buddy' system for new members who are thinking of having a table at Spring Stafford? I always have to bring (drag!) hubby with me or share tables with a friend because of the work involved in setting up your table and looking after it - it took me a couple of years before I was confident enough to book a table. It might help new members if they could pre-book an FF table and be guaranteed help from a more experienced member in looking after their table while they set up; go to the loo; deal with dodgy punters ...?
  9. Hi Shaun I think the comments in this thread say pretty much what I felt - great fun if you're a punter, not so great if you were selling because of the 'pot luck' of where you end up. This was my sixth or seventh time with a table and it was definitely the worst spot I've had in terms of being able to display the birds - tho' that may also be because of the new roof at that side of the hall. I did have lighting in a couple of my cages this time and that seemed to attract people to the table so I'd do more of that in the future. I was in the FF area this March but I have to say I found that bit dark too. Plus I ended up on one of those 'extra' tables slotted in at an angle in the middle and I was worried about cages getting knocking off the table or stolen because of the way it jutted into the walkway. That's why I didn't book into the FF area this time around. I'll add my suggestions to the thread about FF in March because I don't want to sound too negative. But maybe it's also worth starting a thread or post about advice for new table holders? I think it's important to encourage more new breeders to get tables - it might help in in getting more owner-bred birds for sale?
  10. Bit of a mixed day - bought 4 birds (pr grey split Indian silverbills; pr blue face parrot finches); sold 9 birds (mostly songies); brought 11 back home. Disappointed not to sell more but we were on the balcony and was ridiculously dark. Had a lot of punters peering into cages just to work out what colour birds I had, never mind what quality! And the lack of catching cages was a joke. It's def put me off getting a table for the spring show. On the plus side I'm happy with birds I bought and managed to stock up on seed from ger and other stuff that isn't easy to get hold off outside the show. Tho all reasons to visit rather than have a table...
  11. SueG

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    Hi Jim Welcome!
  12. SueG


    Hi Jon. Welcome. Lively mix of birds you've got there - linnies are lovely.